Special Episode - Tom van der Lubbe

Tom's controvertial Corporate Rebels blog post It's About Solidarity Stupid (Why Avoiding Layoffs Makes Sense) asks some searching questions about how we relate to our organisations and the importance of aligning them with our own human needs.

I was delighted to be able to record a conversation with Tom as part of the 21st Century Leadership podcast, as looking at fresh pespectives is so vital if we are to design organisations that are fit for the future - and the present, too!

Tom is a co-founder of Dutch financial services firm Viisi, which was established around 10 years ago using the principles of self-organisation, so he's able to offer some fascinating perspectives.

You can read Tom's Corporate Rebels blog here.

And here's a link to the Viisi organisation chart we refer to during our discussion.